Quest-i-on - Quest to turn 👁💡20-MAR-25

Artist played: Mumford and Sons

-Digital coins

-Did Judas betray Jesus or work with him?

-Fluidity of past and future

-How do we apply for nesara?

-How will stolen wealth be distributed?

-What's the best way to work with those in institutions? lawyers, doctors, etc

-Thoughts on Conor McGregor's white house comments

-Militant veganism - Shaming is not the way

Questions are an invitation to the divine to bring us an answer. As Jesus says in Matthew 7:7 (Christ=77): "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you". So let's spend this time asking and seeking by asking Quest-i-ons on this grand Quest to illuminate the single eye... This Quest I am on...

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QUEST.I.ON NOTES AND TIMESTAMPS

MARCH, 20TH, 2025

Opening Music by Mumford and Sons ~ Sigh No More and Roll Away Your Stone

8:00 Justin’s Welcome and Song Decodes ~

23:00 Welcome to Quest.I.On The Quest I Am On ~ The Journey Back to Self. No need to go anywhere, we’re remembering who we are and once we remember the practice is maintaining that in all moments and no one is in anyway separate from you: That’s the path we’re on. An opportunity to ask questions or share insights and open discussion for all and any topics.

Justin wishes everyone a happy Equinox and acknowledges the seasonal transition. He highlights the rise of Aries as marking the start of the astrological new year—what is the true New Year. This period is more energetically aligned for renewal and personal shifts than the traditional January celebration. He explains that in the Northern Hemisphere—this moment signifies the onset of spring, while in the outer regions, it marks the beginning of fall. The energetic change in nature mirrors a change within us. Justin encourages listeners to use this time for reflection, releasing old patterns, or adopting new practices that align with the shifting season.

He’s spent week+ consuming only raw fruits and greens as a cleanse. He plans to begin a fast and digital detox starting the following day. This includes stepping away from devices and shows for at least three days, possibly longer. He announces the cancellation of the upcoming Friday Watch Party and future shows may be on hold for a short time, depending on how things unfold during his fast.

As a reminder to the listeners—all of Justin’s work is 100% donation-supported and he expresses his deep gratitude to those who contribute, whether financially or through other efforts. Anyone wishing to give towards these efforts may do so at JustinCarpenter.org/contribute (http://JustinCarpenter.org/contribute)

He acknowledges and thanks Donadica for her ongoing work creating show notes and timestamps, which she organizes using AI tools to gather information. He encouraged others to support her by following her on Telegram: https://t.me/RabbitTrailsAndBunnyTales

Justin extends an invitation to assist or contribute in similar ways, especially with shows that are missing notes— He added that creating clips from longer shows is another much-appreciated form of support. Please let Justin know if you have other ideas for joining efforts in the production of these lives...

If you like the music from these shows, Justin’s been compiling all the songs into a YouTube playlist and Joanna from Passion for Fruit Telegram channel has created an ever growing playlist on Spotify:

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Joanna also does a phenomenal job making informative, inspiring videos and posts on her channel, make sure to give her a follow t.me/passionforfruit (http://t.me/passionforfruit) She's made many shorter clips from shows and she pulls great information from other sources and spaces too. Justin especially appreciates the Spotify playlist; so he's able to have all that music wherever he goes, whether he’s driving...It's great playlist that he loves connect with because they're all his favorite songs and they all have very deep, meaningful lyrics. Having that essence imbued into his day, those energetics, those frequencies in his space is so appreciated. Thanks Joanna again for all her efforts and putting that together.

Justin mentions his support of the children in Uganda in the care of Bali, the Lions of Uganda are still in need of monthly supplies and support. They're doing their best to get by with whatever they can to help get food and their basic needs met. Justin is working to help get them support as best he can also ~ Any donations are greatly appreciated. Justin set up their Givesendgo link: givesendgo.com/lionsofuganda (http://givesendgo.com/lionsofuganda) Please feel free to contribute or send any donations through Justin’s website links and attach a note indicating where you’d like that to be applied and he’ll happily forward it along to Bali and the children. He acknowledges that it's not easy for many folks in these times; Justin feels that he must continue to do his best to gather support for the children.

Justin appreciates those who attend the shows live and gives priority to those questions first, because it makes for a dynamic discussion. However, he also has offline written questions as well. All are welcome to send in questions at any point in whatever way you wish to reach Justin…message him or just write a comment in any common group and he’ll do his best to get to those questions on the next live…If you’ve not heard your questions after a few shows, then please remind him as he’s just one person and doesn’t have an admin team to assist or anything. He does his best to stay organized however; thanks everyone for their patience with that.

34:01 Rowan shares he’s following up on a previous question regarding Pi Network and other topics in the crypto space. He shared that he's been exploring the platform, mining Pi, and diving into how blockchain technology works—particularly how it's supposed to decentralize power and challenge the control of central banks...

Rowan has looked into several Central Bank (CB) stable coins to inner-stand how to identify them and what they’re actually backed by—(ie: the U.S. dollar or USDC). He points out an irony: While the original intent behind crypto was to empower people to break free from corrupt financial systems, many of these coins now seem entangled with the same institutions they were meant to disrupt. He observed that even coins which don’t appear centralized at first can shift toward becoming stable coins later.

Rowan emphasized that although he supports precious metals like silver and gold for their tangible backing, he’s still curious and cautiously exploring digital alternatives and crypto trading strategies. He admits that the space is confusing—and he wants to avoid crypto scams as it’s difficult to know which voices to trust or which coins might actually support freedom...Rowan mentions that coins like XLM and ADA have come up in previous conversations, and he’d like to hear Justin’s perspective as to where its all heading—especially in regard to Pi...

37:59 Justin shares that although he doesn’t have much he would like to share where he’s at with all of it ~ He feels that anything in the cryptocurrency market space has much more risk than a piece of silver that he can hold in his hand. He’s purchased a few very small amounts compared to what he’s invested in gold and silver…primarily silver because that will rise the highest and that’s guaranteed, since it's such a utilitarian substance. Unless we tap into true alchemy and we’re transmuting other metals into that…however that would mean we’re at such an advanced level that we’d not be worried about money in that case…the stepping stones until we arrive there silver and gold are going to be very powerful.

Outside of those, it's a gamble. Do you want to play crypto games and see what happens? And there are times when he does. As far as Pi goes, there’s no money exchanged there so no risk is involved…only mining. In a world that’s increasingly digital, he points out that ease of transacting remains important, even if the existing centralized banking system has often complicated it.

He acknowledges the impracticality of relying solely on physical assets like silver and gold for everyday transactions—especially in an online economy—which is why digital infrastructure, if already in place and effective, could become a logical solution. From what he’s seen, XRP and XLM have built a strong, functional infrastructure that may give them staying power.

Justin was clear that he remains cautious: Only holding a very small percentage (less than 5%, likely closer to 2%) of his overall assets are in crypto. The majority of his holdings are in physical precious metals, which he’s kept for years after leaving the corporate system and converting his 401k.

He reiterates that while he doesn’t have deep knowledge in the digital currency space, he trusts physical assets more and suggests others like Darth may have some deeper insights for anyone wanting to explore further.

43:00 Darth offers a broader perspective on Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) and the role of money in general. He challenges the notion that CBDCs are inherently evil, asserting that it depends upon context and who holds the power. If a CBDC operates within family structure, where it serves the people; it’s not necessarily a bad thing. The issue with current private central banks, especially those in the West, is that they're not transparent, not part of the family and function above the people, rather than beneath them in service.

He stresses the importance of proper hierarchy—money and banks should be tools under our control, not systems that dominate and control us. He compares: if a family like the Trumps were to create a bank, and it operated openly to serve people within that “house,” it could function differently than a veiled institution like the Federal Reserve, where ownership and accountability are obscured.

When it comes to XRP and XLM, Darth highlights their shared origin—both were created by Jed McCaleb—but he pointed out a key distinction: XRP is a private company-run system (Ripple), whereas XLM is nonprofit and mission-driven. He personally leans toward XLM, philosophically, though he admits that practically, both are worth considering because they’re gaining traction earth-wide.

Despite his mistrust of centralized financial systems like the Federal Reserve, he still has to participate in them—“I can’t buy gas with a chicken" (he jokes)—so a balance must be struck between ideals and real-world function…

Darth shares that his current investments include XRP, XLM, Algorand, and Flare, while he’s now completely out of Bitcoin. He also holds gold and silver as tangible, long-term stores of value.

He comments that his ultimate hope is for a future where money is no longer necessary and humanity moves beyond needing any such systems at all.

47:34 Rowan offered Darth and Justin his thanks and appreciation; Especially acknowledging how their ways of articulating complex ideas help him think more deeply about these issues. He resonated with Darth’s metaphors—these help him to clarify things...To him, the crypto space can feel like a “shark tank,” where even insiders may be used, manipulated, or consumed.

Rowan emphasizes that he’s still new to this and not making any definitive claims, but from what he’s observed, every coin and digital system carries a level of risk—regardless of what structure it's tied to. He appreciates Justin’s point that projects like Pi or others might carry low risk due to their accessibility, but he agrees that it's still a gamble. He sees the practical limitations of physical assets like gold and silver, agreeing that while they hold more tangible value and long-term feasibility, they lack convenience for everyday transactions, especially in a digital age. He sees the logic behind digital currencies—utility and ease of use—but he still feels uneasy about how trustworthy or secure these systems are.

Rowan opens the conversation to others, expressing genuine curiosity about whether anyone in the community had firsthand experience actually using digital currencies in a day-to-day utilitarian sense. Most of the information he finds tends to focus on the buying/selling aspects which makes the space feel more like a gambling market than a reliable monetary system. He states he’s "here to learn and listen” and entering discussions with humility and caution, not as someone trying to give financial any advice.

50:55 Justin responds to Rowan breaking down how he views the current limitations and future potential of digital currencies, particularly those like XRP, XLM, and Pi. He confirms that when people talk about the “utility” of these coins, it’s often a forward-looking concept—not necessarily something that's realized right now in a practical, everyday sense. Currently, most infrastructure is still tightly woven into the fiat banking system, which was deliberately designed to centralize and/or consolidate power—That system isn’t going quietly…

He points out that, while many crypto projects present themselves as decentralized alternatives, the real distinguishing factor is often transparency, not decentralization alone. If systems allow transactions and ledger activity to be publicly visible and traceable, it minimizes the potential for fraud and deception, which is a key differentiator from traditional banking system. That’s the heart of what it means when Darth says these projects have a “utilitarian purpose”—they offer the potential to serve people in a more equitable way.

Justin reiterates: We’re not there yet— Until there’s widespread adoption, none of these systems will be truly functional. That’s where the gamble comes in—Society still needs to collectively decide which tools and platforms will be used, and until that happens, it’s all speculation. Bitcoin, for example, might be popular, but it holds no real utilitarian value, especially as it scales poorly and becomes difficult for everyday use. XRP/XLM however and potentially Pi offer more promise in Justin’s view.

But even then, it’s a wait-and-see game. He reminds us that the digital space is full of deception, largely because the old system still exists and is functioning as a sort of parasite, creating scams and false opportunities to lure people in and take advantage of their hope and inexperience.

He suggests that while White Hats may be in control behind the scenes—they're not intervening directly in every scam because people need to experience these traps to develop discernment. This is part of the awakening process, and if people aren’t learning to critically evaluate the opportunities, they risk falling back into similar cycles of manipulation that allowed the old system to dominate in the first place.

Justin shares that even he had explored some of the lesser-known coins promoted in circles like Whiplash, but in those cases, he put in only tiny amounts of money—just a few cents—because he views them as extremely high risk. If he lost it all, it wouldn’t affect him—That’s how he looks at digital investments across the board: Money he can afford to lose. That mindset is crucial for navigating this space responsibly.

He reminds us that every investment carries risk, and for him, digital coins fall firmly into the high-risk category, whereas precious metals like gold and silver are his low-risk, long-term holdings. He encourages others to be cautious, mindful, and to keep a healthy sense of detachment—invest with clarity, not emotion, and always be prepared to let it go if necessary.

58:10 Darth adds some real-world examples to share about XRP and XLM: He highlights that XRP isn't just theoretical—it's already being used in the world right now—Not just by niche players but by some major institutions also.

He shares some already using these coins: Amazon Web Services is already leveraging XRP for internal processes, and American Express uses it for international transactions. He listed several other major entities—including Banco Rendimento, Bank of America (currently in testing), Bitso, Kulix, Della, Italo Unibanco, MoneyTap, Santander, and Western Union, which is in a testing phase. Even the Bank of Thailand, The Saudi Central Bank and The Royal Monetary Authority of Bhutan are reported to be using it, and the World Bank is currently looking into it.

He notes the creation of RLUSD, a USD-pegged stable-coin on the Ripple network, represents an important step forward for this ecosystem. With RLUSD and the ability to create sub-tokens through XRP’s framework, he sees the infrastructure expanding into something more dynamic and adaptable. Darth even tried making a token himself just to experiment—and it worked, which for him confirmed the usability and functionality of the tech behind it.

Comparing XRP to XLM Darth clarifies that these two aren't competitors in the traditional sense. Rather, they serve different roles in the ecosystem. While XRP is clearly being embraced by large-scale institutions and centralized organizations, XLM is more decentralized and philosophically better aligned for everyday transactions. In Darth’s view, one might not use XRP to buy a gallon of milk someday—but XLM could very well fill that role, making it more accessible for people with limited financial resources.

He also puts this in the bigger picture of how systems change—by pointing out that big organizations and powerful financial groups won’t disappear right away, even as things start to shift. We might be heading into a new way of living, but the old setup won’t just vanish overnight. Darth emphasizes the need to stay aware and involved during this transition.

Darth noted that the SEC just dropped its case against XRP, which many see as a big win. He also mentioned Trump originally posted about XRP on Truth Social before switching it to Bitcoin—another sign that XRP is gaining real traction.

While he's still researching XRP, all signs for him point to holding and even growing his position in it. He sees Bitcoin as a sinking ship, suggesting the writing has been on the wall for some time: "we never should have been in it to begin with…"

1:02:30 Justin thanks Darth for this gnosis and passes back to Rowan for follow up…

1:02:35 Rowan shares that Darth’s rundown offers him a mix of enthusiasm and relief; comments how it was substantial and grounded information...He requests the list of these actual companies and institutions using the coins; its these kinds of concrete and verifiable information that he’d been struggling to find.

He explains that part of his hesitation around digital currencies stemmed from how opinion-based so much of the discourse has felt. He found it very difficult to identify opinions from facts—Darth’s specifics were a welcome shift from general sentiment to hard data. Rowan also comments on Trump’s involvement that he’d heard about some of this mentioned but he reiterated that for him, the most valuable insights come from people within the community—the ones he’s in regular communication with, even if they’ve never met in person…He offers thanks to Darth and Justin again —in appreciation of this genuine gnosis.

1:04:23 Written question from Bec: Asking about a post on Joanna Channel —Passion for Fruit. She references how, according to the Gospel of Judas, which was found in the 1970s; Judas might have received direct instructions from Yeshua to turn him in, playing a tragic role in a larger plan—She asks Justin’s thoughts on this and wonders was Judas in with Yeshua to either fake his death or to turn him in to create the story.

Justin's Reply: He can’t know for certain how it happened and how things went down…however, he’s heard this before and he would say its very possible to have unfolded this way; This would make lots of sense as well. If Yeshua knew that they were looking to kill him, why would he not be the first one to fake his death...

Or maybe he actually “died” and did transcend the physical death in that way. It’s possible as well. It's very similar to, and fitting for the time period of the Kennedy files being released and whats happened on that fateful day as well. Jack knew what he was getting into. Potentially there was a coordination by the White Hats to intercept what was a Black Hat plot to kill him. They did it in a way to where he didn't actually die. This parallels within that quite possibly, because it's the same story that’s always told...Justin mentions that Darth had some interesting things to say about that when he asked him about it previously…He asks if Darth would be willing to share those here now--

1:07:12 Darth shares a reflection on time, memory, and the nature of reality regarding questions that touch on the truth of the past—specifically events like the betrayal of Jesus—and whether those narratives hold up across time.

He acknowledges the complexity of recalling “the past” and offers another idea: “There’s not just a single past.” Darth uses his home as example upstate New York, a place with layered history—Revolutionary War, Civil War, early settler and Native American conflicts—all of which—truly happened. And yet, when walking across a field where history unfolded, he notes that unless you dig, it's invisible. Even then, like the musket bayonet he once dug up, the past remains inaccessible to the senses.

Darth, shares —it’s all about resonance. Our bodies change resonance as we move forward in time. This locks out both the past and the future. And yet, our choices—our attitudes, our expectations, our faith—alter that resonance. He connects this to the Law of Attraction: positive expectation and gratitude can shift your frequency to where manifestation becomes possible. But not only that—it changes what timelines one has access to.

When we revisit past events—even from our own lives—we may encounter them differently, because we’ve changed, and thus the event is now filtered through a different energetic lens. When it comes to something as ancient as the betrayal of Christ, Darth suggested that multiple versions exist. In one, Jesus dies on the stake. In another, he escapes... Maybe Judas took his place. And all of these are real, when viewed from the standpoint of the absolute divine—God, Source, the All.

From that divine perspective, every timeline is valid. There's a timeline, where there’s no life on Earth, and another where every possible outcome has unfolded. We're just confined to this one for now, due to the limitations of physicality and persona.

Back to Judas, addressing the age-old debate: was he good or evil? Darth’s answer: “Yes” —Both. From the higher vantage point, dualities dissolve, and good versus evil becomes two sides of a truth, rather than opposing absolutes. —Artifacts from different timelines bleeding into this one, especially in the information age where we're all trying to see everything at once. That’s not how reality is meant to work… When you’re not observing, everything exists in infinite probability. But the moment you look—measure—you collapse that into a single actuality. That’s the quantum nature of reality.

So, conflicting documents, relics, and historical narratives may all show up in the same timeline, and still be true, because truth isn't binary. It doesn't have to be logical or rational, because God—the source of all things—isn’t limited to a single view or consistent state of being. Reality, made in His image, must be able to serve everyone, and that includes all experiences, contradictions, and possibilities.

Darth’s reflections created a cosmic lens on not only how we see the past, but how we should approach truth itself—with flexibility, faith, and an openness to multiple simultaneous realities.

1:13:36 Justin agrees —it gets real deep real quickly. He appreciates that perspective… and part of the conversation they previously had--was imagining how we might get to a space where time ceases to have any meaning whatsoever—We don't keep track of history or worry about the future because we just live blissfully forever in the perpetual now, which is all that really is; All else is just a construct.

1:14:19 Darth agrees Justin is right —Part of the reason why the past even exists is because we keep looking at it. If we all stop doing that…it will de-manifest.

1:14:29 Justin concurs, that the tricky part, because these are the ways that the Anti-christic forces used to control us by destroying the record of the past to diminish the connection with the now. We can't necessarily jump to that, but eventually we may find a way…

1:15:49 Jeff adds…this may connect directly as it’s about Time, perception, and the nature of truth. He reflected on the state of information in ancient or past civilizations, asking whether they might’ve actually been more informed than we are today—despite having less access to technology like the internet. Regarding resets or cycles of history no matter how far back we go…He feels that today’s information landscape was clear—that we now have so much information that its become nearly impossible to discern truth—what is and what is not. Are we being overwhelmed and manipulated by the chaos of it all?

1:16:49 Justin responds considering Jeff’s question through a spiritual lens, he explains that being truly "informed" depends on our alignment with Christic energy—the more aligned we are, the more awareness and divine truth we'll embody. He describes Atlantis as a high point in human alignment, followed by cycles of rise and fall, much like a sine wave.

He questions mainstream historical narratives; We’ve had both highly enlightened and deeply disconnected civilizations—often not in the order we're taught. We're likely in a modern dark age now that is masked as progress. Justin feels it's not just about how much information we have, but what kind, and how we focus our attention, which can either elevate or mislead us…

1:20:12 Rowan interjects to express a concern about dismissing history. While acknowledging the abundance of information and uncertainty we all navigate, he feels that some historical knowledge is essential—especially in understanding Christ consciousness. He warns that if we treat history as irrelevant or say it "won’t matter someday," it could lead others—especially those still awakening—to dis-engage entirely.

He comments how courageous individuals throughout history who sacrificed deeply for future generations and spiritual truth, stressing that their stories deserve to be remembered. Without that anchor—people may spiral into nihilism, lose motivation, or feel deceived into thinking --none of it matters.

Rowan urges carefulness when discussing concepts like alternate timelines or historical irrelevance, as these can unintentionally discourage seekers from continuing their path.

1:25:40 Justin interjects to clarify that the Christic path is all about balance, and while Rowan's caution is valid, leaning too far into history as necessity risks losing the essence of the present moment. He emphasizes that a truly Christic being doesn’t need history, past, or future—just unconditional love embodied now. He explains that while learning from the past is useful, it’s like training wheels—important at first, but meant to be let go eventually. Justin stresses he’s not speaking to the masses, but to those who are already awakening. Messages shared in this space are not designed to be digestible by everyone, especially not those still fully plugged into mainstream systems.

He reiterates that Christ doesn’t need proof or history—it simply is, and we’re remembering that truth. Holding onto the past as identity or constantly intellectualizing keeps us from direct experience. The mental aspect is only one part of our being, not meant to lead the way.

Justin affirms Rowan’s point about being mindful with words, but brings it back to balance in all things —honoring the past without becoming attached, and remembering that we are, what we’ve been searching for—right here, right now.

1:33:52 Darth adds his wishes to congratulate Rowan for figuring out the meaninglessness of the situation—being as profound as Ecclesiastes scripture to illustrate that this awareness is ancient: everything under the sun is fleeting, repetitive, and forgotten. Time, being infinite, consumes all things—people, empires, efforts. He asks others to name forgotten heroes from ancient civilizations as proof of how quickly even greatness fades.

He explains that despite the futility of worldly toil, the experience itself—especially love, compassion, generosity, and the Christic spirit—is what holds true value. These are the only things that persist in meaning, even if history forgets the names. Darth affirms Rowan was correct—but that doesn't mean that the Christic spirit doesn't exist—nor does it mean that good, goodness and truth doesn't exist because goodness and truth does exist. He concludes that while time renders all material striving, meaningless, goodness, truth and the Christic essence give life its worth and our presence—past, present, and future—is eternal through consciousness. That is Christ’s promise.

1:37:25 Justin agrees—Adding a comment that Beth shared in the group chat… “When we are one with Christ, there is no past. Let's focus on building new, not examining past mistakes.”

And while that’s true to a degree, Justin clarifies to be very clear: His response— It's not inherently ignoring the past always, but only the precise amount necessary to learn from and move forward. It's tricky, because this idea that Beth mentions, while true, can also be used by the ego to bypass. Balance is key: If we are truly an embodied Christ, then we have nothing in the past to transmute.

Justin adds (speaking personally) he is not yet a fully embodied Christ in all moments—there’s still room to examine his past, but only for the purpose of transmutation, not to dwell or cling to it. He emphasizes that in our current, “infantile” state, reflecting on the past can offer valuable lessons. However, once those lessons are integrated, they should be released.

In the fully embodied Christ state, there’s no need to look back, because Christ simply is acting in alignment with truth and love. He cautions, though, that the ego can hijack even these higher concepts—like believing “you are God”—and the ego can twist them into superiority or justification for control. So just as Rowan warned about the risks of dismissing history, Justin urges mindfulness of how spiritual truths can be misused by the ego. Asking Rowan if he has any follow up on the discussion…

1:40:33 Rowan replies that he does have further thoughts, but he's still processing the depth of what’s been shared. Even when the topics are somewhat familiar, there’s always more to learn through these kinds of conversations.

He acknowledges he’s spoken often already in this discussion and doesn’t want to dominate the mic unnecessarily. Grateful to both Darth and Justin for expanding his “spiritual library,” he’ll continue to reflect and is mostly in listening mode for now, chiming in only if something feels important to add.

1:41:41 Justin reads a written question from Pauline R. Asking about how the UK members can get instructions regarding Nesara…as she has not a clue how they are to go about it—there are no instructions.

Justin shares that he's received variations of this question before and emphasizes simplicity as the key. He notes that nothing about what’s coming will be complex, exclusive, or will require special knowledge or access. The return of abundance—"the wealth of the wicked is saved up for the righteous"—will be obvious and effortless, potentially even appearing unexpectedly in something like your bank account. He stresses there will be no forms to fill out; No need to contact anyone; And definitely no legitimate service asking for money or selling currency. If anyone claims otherwise, he says they’re either knowingly or unknowingly running a scam.

He continues that while those tuned into these shifts are still not the majority, what’s coming is meant for everyone—even those with little to no tech savvy. He reassures that it won’t be necessary to ask or apply—you’ll just know when it happens.

1:45:01 Rowan interjects noting that Justin’s comments sparked a thought. He wonders about the practical side of large sums appearing in people’s bank accounts—how banks might perceive it as income. He clarifies he's not trying to feed fear-based narratives about taxes or surveillance but points out that such an event would likely raise questions from financial institutions. He asks, how we should address it, if the banks inquire? Is it a conversation worth having, or do we simply stand in the truth that it’s something rightfully returned? He wonders what Justin thinks…

1:46:45 Justin responds that Rowan is thinking on too small a scale. He emphasizes that this will be a world-wide event with all remaining banking institutions being recalibrated simultaneously. The current systems—including taxation and/or regulatory structures—will be obsolete. Any institutions that survive the shift will already be working with the White Hats and fully aware of what's unfolding, so that no one will be questioned about the origin of the redistributed wealth.

He urges Rowan to pause the mental loops --reassuring him all will be great—While Justin recognizes that the transition may be intense and frightening, especially as the old financial system collapses, he maintains that this is part of the larger, fluid plan. There may be periods where people temporarily lose access to bank accounts, or accounts may be wiped entirely—but in the end, the wealth will be returned justly. Any idea of being taxed on it is not aligned with the truth of what's coming, and further he assures, “there’s no need to worry.”

1:48:49 Rowan acknowledges he may be overthinking things, but raises another concern. He wonders what happens when this wealth is distributed to everyone, regardless of their past actions or current state of consciousness. He points out that some individuals have caused harm to others—physically, emotionally, or otherwise—and may not have done the inner work to change their path. In some places like Canada, for example, there are many people deeply affected by addiction, and he questions how such a windfall might impact them.

He reflects on the possibility of chaos erupting, even though the intention is to bless humanity. Some may ride this wave smoothly, but others may become destabilized by it. For those already struggling, he fears it could become overwhelming or even dangerous and possibly fueling more destructive behavior.

He reassures that he's not trying to complicate things, but rather, he enjoys doing his due diligence…He compares this shift to a massive wave—one that could be ridden gracefully by some, but that may crash down hard on others who aren't prepared or aware.

1:51:39 Justin responds by suggesting that playing the “what if” game can be endless and ultimately unproductive. He compares it to how Trump often addresses speculative questions—by trusting that the right action will be taken when the time comes. Justin highlights that he’s not the one pulling the levers, nor is he the judge of individual cases. Rather than spending energy deliberating on potential misuses of the coming wealth redistribution, he suggests trusting the process that’s been in motion for a very long time as —Its God’s plan.

He acknowledges that deep generational trauma may surface and cautions against judging who is worthy of receiving abundance based on past actions. While he inner-stands the concern that some might abuse their new-found financial freedom, he believes --evil will no longer be tolerated. Those who choose to harm others after the event will be swiftly met with consequences. The system that’s emerging, won’t permit exploitation or cruelty to continue unchecked.

Justin stresses the importance of forgiveness, noting that redistribution will offer a level playing field where people can finally escape abusive situations or oppressive dynamics—barriers that have mostly existed due to financial hardship. Those who persist in old patterns of abuse and control will be met with karmic consequences, as the natural laws within creation will work and we will no longer support such behavior.

He reiterates that this isn’t something he—or anyone outside the operation—can fully predict or control. The plan, he insists, has been carefully orchestrated by the most experienced and spiritually attuned individuals, backed by tremendous gnosis and divine guidance. Yes, problems may arise, but unlike the current system which rewards dysfunction, the new structure will be solution-oriented and focused on the collective good.

Justin references examples: Elon Musk and Doge addressing basic inefficiencies, such as outdated Social Security payments, as early signs of common sense returning—These are glimpses of the larger change to come; Justin urges caution in dwelling on hypotheticals, as they can distract from the present moment and personal alignment. He encourages trust in the process and having faith in this divinely guided unfolding plan that will ultimately be for the benefit of all—not just the privileged few.

2:00:29 Rowan responds with appreciation. Justin’s comments open a meaningful pathway for him. He connects the conversation to deeper themes of survival and behavioral conditioning, referring to childhood where certain survival strategies weren’t born out of choice, but necessity. Letting go of those ingrained patterns, is a major part of what this entire journey has been about—unlearning, and relearning.

Rowan admits--he may sometimes get caught up in hypotheticals, he reframes it as a former survival tactic—something that once wasn’t about curiosity or entertainment, but about being prepared in order to survive. He describes it as similar to the mindset of a military strategist: someone who’s not looking to attack, but always needing to defend what little they had, because so much has already been taken…

Justin’s reminder, serves as a healthy nudge away from those old loops—the “what-if’s” spirals... He agrees this shift into a new paradigm is real, and that the old need for constant vigilance may not be necessary in the same way anymore. He feels a sense of curiosity and gratitude; It’s clear that this isn’t just a theoretical dialogue—it’s part of a much deeper process of healing, trust, and personal transformation for him. He’s grateful for that…

2:03:10 Justin has a follow up to a topic that was discussed on the Gospel of Thomas (Part 3) from the night before… The question was from Beth asking if ‘Discernment of Professionals’ could be covered again. Justin recalls the discussion was about trusting lawyers, doctors and such…

Justin references what was discussed on the show and reiterates with these systems: Medical and Legal…all of these things are tentacles of the octopus that are designed to strangle us and to reduce our potential of remembering who we truly are as Christic beings. He's certain that these were designed for that purpose, in a myriad of ways —he feels he could speak on this all day —how they were designed to snuff us out, dim our light and bring us down.

Further he emphasizes the importance of discerning individuals over institutions. He doesn’t view someone as inherently corrupt just because they belong to a profession like medicine or law—instead, he sees each person first and foremost as a Child of God with Christic potential. However, he’s clear that institutions themselves are designed to pull people away from divine nature, often unknowingly, turning them into instruments of a system built to suppress and harvest human light.

If someone demonstrates blind allegiance to their institution—believing only in their professional training and dismissing all else—Justin considers them a puppet of that system, regardless of intent. He wouldn’t entrust such individuals with his body or legal matters. Instead, he looks for signs that a person recognizes the problems within their institution and is willing to act independently and ethically from within it.

He points out differences between people who are embedded in the system and those who, despite being part of it, act like infiltrators trying to do good. He praises doctors during the COVID era who broke rank with mainstream narratives as examples. Discernment means evaluating each individual’s awareness and alignment, not judging by profession alone. He always strives for is seeking that inherent goodness in everyone and seeing that first and foremost; And he warns against naivety, explaining that while most people are inherently good, the roles and personas they adopt—especially within institutions—can distort or possess them. Therefore, trust must be earned, and not all who serve in a system should be treated as allies.

He compares dealing with these systems to hiring mercenaries in a war—sometimes necessary, but always risky. Professionals like lawyers may help navigate the system but shouldn’t be blindly trusted, especially if they don’t see the deeper corruption at play. These individuals may act in self-interest, like mercenaries, and could turn, if the incentives change. Justin says it all comes down to refining one’s discernment and connection to divine guidance and higher outcomes. Every situation is unique, and there’s no one-size-fits-all rule. These can still be used and transmuted—With a strong internal compass, the divine can work, through any path—even through the system itself—to serve a higher purpose; Justin welcomes Roxy ~

2:15:15 Roxy brings attention to recent developments involving Conor McGregor, noting the significance in the context of St. Patrick's Day and the spotlight currently on Ireland. She outlines how Conor McGregor, a well-known but controversial figure from Dublin, has increasingly stepped into political commentary—culminating in a surprising invitation to the White House, where he met with Donald Trump, and reportedly had contact with Elon Musk, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and others.

Roxy explains, what stands out, is that McGregor, (not any Irish politician) was chosen to represent Ireland at this high-profile level during a culturally symbolic time. From the White House press room, he publicly highlighted issues such as mass migration; this has stirred significant political tension in Ireland.

She ties McGregor’s activism to a concurrent open letter sent to the U.S. (addressed to VP J.D. Vance), which also drew attention to Ireland's loss of sovereignty and governmental corruption—particularly a conflict of interest involving Ireland’s Minister for Education. The minister’s husband is a senior executive at a U.S. company that manufactures puberty blockers, raising red flags given her role in children's welfare and education.

Roxy suggests these threads—McGregor’s platform, his X channel posts, the open letter, and the international connections—might be signaling the beginning of political accountability in Ireland, particularly for those seen as deep state/globalist-aligned and disconnected from the people's needs.

Adding to the tension, McGregor issued a public ultimatum to the Irish government, demanding within 12 days:

1. A plan to dismantle human trafficking operations.

2. A policy for mass deportation of criminals.

3. A tightening of border control—mirroring moves seen in the U.S.

Though many in Ireland see McGregor as divisive, Roxy highlights that his message seems to be resonating with ordinary citizens who feel voiceless at this time. Mentioning the emotional reaction on Irish forums, as some people were brought to tears of joy, viewing Conor as one of the only public figures speaking out boldly on behalf of the people.

Roxy recognizes that McGregor’s role is complex—his persona is controversial, but his platform has drawn attention to important national concerns. It’s a matter of listening to the message rather than judging the messenger and she wonders whether this might be the beginning of real change in Ireland’s political landscape?

2:24:49 Justin thanks Roxy for raising the topic and says he wasn’t previously aware of the details surrounding McGregor’s appearance at the White House. He has known of McGregor—referencing his fame as a UFC fighter—and remarks on the significance of the events Roxy described.

Justin shares his view regarding this, as another clear example of the ongoing exposure of entrenched corruption within political and governmental institutions. He notes that while the targeting of children through things like pharmaceuticals is especially disturbing, it's also bringing necessary attention to deeper systemic issues.

He reflects that the "Great Awakening is an Earth-wide movement, not just an American phenomenon. Each nation is now experiencing its own version of reckoning based on the particular forms of corruption they’ve tolerated. He emphasizes personal and collective responsibility, saying much of this has unfolded due to society’s own negligence and naivety—not solely through outside imposition.

As for McGregor’s sudden political involvement, Justin speculates that he may be working with the White Hats, behind the scenes working to expose the corruption. Whether McGregor is directly working with them or simply expressing his genuine convictions, Justin feels his actions are helping drive forward the awakening. McGregor’s bold personality makes him well-suited to shake up the narrative.

He touches on the alleged ties between Irish politicians and pharmaceutical companies, saying whether or not these stories are entirely real or symbolically orchestrated, they’re serving the purpose of eroding public trust in institutions.—And that’s essential; People are beginning to understand that governments and officials are not necessarily acting in the public’s best interest.

Justin points out Donald Trump’s involvement and the absurdity of some recent policies and ideologies—such as the participation of men in women’s sports or administering drugs to children before they can consent...

Ultimately, the situation in Ireland as part of a larger unraveling—a kind of energetic buildup heading toward inevitable change. He cites each of these stories contributes to that shift, and while they may differ in detail from country to country, they all serve the same purpose: to move humanity toward truth and freedom. He thanks Roxy again for sharing the story and says he’s encouraged by seeing more signs of change taking shape around the world. Justin asks Roxy if she has any feedback…

2:28:59 Roxy shares that she can add how deeply personal the situation is for her, as it’s unfolding in her own country. She shares that seeing these events come to light has been powerful and meaningful, especially in the face of what she describes as a climate of fear that’s gripped much of Ireland. She talks about how she often dips in and out of various conversations on X—particularly Irish patriot channels—to get a sense of how people are feeling. While many are clearly unsettled or anxious, there’s also a sense of hope emerging.

Roxy notes that any mention of Q or the Q team is almost taboo in these spaces—bringing it up can result in being shut down or dismissed entirely. She’s seen others attempt to introduce the idea that what’s happening might be part of a larger narrative or part of the “movie playing out”, but it’s often met with resistance. She feels that there’s an undercurrent of awakening, with more people starting to see patterns and connections. She shares how many people in Ireland have been praying for a figure to step forward, someone with the courage to speak out and rally the public. For some, Conor McGregor appears to be stepping into that role, intentionally or not. Watching the two parallel storylines unfold and converge on St. Patrick’s Day—McGregor’s White House visit and the open letter from Irish citizens—felt especially significant to her.

As Roxy says…“timing is everything,”—echoing a familiar Q phrase; It seems as though McGregor has been brought on board in some fashion—perhaps by the Q team, White Hats, or another force—and is now being positioned at the center of the stage. She has cautious optimism, acknowledging that time will reveal the bigger picture, but for now, she’s uplifted by the sense of momentum and the feeling that Ireland is finally being seen and heard.

2:31:26 Justin thanks Roxy for her share and quotes Q saying "Tick Tock"…these timeframes that are given are an effective way to see how the rats scurry. Anyone still propping up the old system or doing wrong—they’re getting very nervous when timelines are set and often make moves which expose them —there’s only so much they can do. He agrees it is exciting and thanks Roxy again for her share.

2:32:07 Lila interjects thanking Roxy for sharing her perspectives. She explains that she sometimes feels removed from what's going on in other places—she wishes to know and hear about, most especially from members of our community as it's happening in real time. Grateful for Roxy and also she being of Irish descent as well she was thankful to hear relief in Roxy’s voice about all that’s been happening as she considers the Irish "her people" in many ways. She expresses on behalf of the group how important Roxy’s sharing is and receiving news from what she’s seeing and experiencing as well. She refers to Americans feeling overwhelmed with the newly released JFK files…and how we can become hyper-focused on things like that...

2:33:33 Roxy responds to Lila’s compliments, expressing her appreciation for the kind words. She reflects on how meaningful it is that the conversation has resonated with Irish Americans, especially in light of March being recognized—by executive order—as Irish American Heritage Month (though not certain of the exact title).

She also touches on the emotional and cultural significance of this moment in time, particularly in relation to the Kennedy family legacy. Roxy recalls a familiar image from her childhood—visiting her grandparents’ homes and always seeing a picture of the Pope alongside a portrait of JFK—a symbol, for many Irish families, of faith and pride in their heritage. She closes saying how grateful she is that these discussions are happening, even within our close-knit community, and thanks everyone for being part of it.

2:32:33 Justin thanks and agrees with Lila and thanks Roxy again—asking if others would like to share before the show ends…

2:34:50 Rowan shares that his contributions to the discussions today have been varied and asks for patience as he changes the subject to something more personal—His thoughts on and around plant-based living and/or veganism...For over a decade, he lived with a strict vegan mindset, distancing himself from those who consumed or used animal products like honey or wool.

However, over the past year, Rowan shares that his views have started to soften and mature. He speaks about how the word "vegan" itself has become loaded—associated with self-righteousness… particularly during the pandemic, when some outspoken vegans endorsed actions that contradicted their stated ethics. He references Canada where activist groups, once close to him, began to feel more cult-like than compassionate—He’s begun to reconnect with people and ideas he once rejected… Commenting about practices like shearing sheep for wool, (recognizes its both humane and beneficial for the animal when done properly). He’s also reconsidered the use of honey, recognizing its historical role in medicine and preservation.

On the topic of eggs, (which he still doesn’t consume) but is curious about. He discusses research he’s come across, highlighting how the color of egg yolks—ranging from pale yellow to rich gold—can indicate the well-being of the hen. The deeper the color, the more likely the chicken lived in a healthy, cared-for environment… He asks others to share thoughts about ethical sourcing and plant-based living as he’s still learning and remains open to new insights…

2:40:37 Justin affirms Rowan’s discomfort with the term “vegan,” explaining that its meaning’s become burdened by militant attitudes—people using it as a tool to shame and punish others into compliance. He sees this as spiritually ineffective, emphasizing that true change comes from the heart, not from external pressure or fear. Justin prefers the term “plant-based”, though even that feels limiting. Ideally, he says, he’d rather not use any label at all, instead following a simple rule: eat what feels right, what aligns with his body and spirit, without harm.

He shares that, through observation, he’s found that he thrives more without consuming animal products, and that his choices have become more intuitive over time. The challenge, he says, is living in a world obsessed with labels and definitions, where language can’t always capture the subtleties of personal evolution.

Reflecting on spiritual teachings: Justin recalls way back we did shows with Remembrance or Ember…(Justin hasn’t heard from in a while hopes he's doing well)…he shared a variation of the Essene 10 Commandments, which deeply shaped his thinking. The version he read framed the act of eating flesh as wrong—not in a dogmatic way, but in alignment with the idea that no creature willingly gives its life to be eaten. However, Justin notes the text allowed for the temporary use of non-lethal animal products—like milk, eggs, or honey—as long as no harm or torture was involved. These were seen as denser, lower-vibrational foods, and used as part of a transitional phase toward lighter nourishment, such as fruits, or eventually even non-physical sources of energy.

Justin agrees with Rowan’s take on eggs and honey, noting that although he rarely consumes honey, he will occasionally use it if, it's ethically sourced. Dairy, on the other hand, he avoids altogether—not because of strict ideology, but because he lacks a direct connection to animals raised in humane conditions. He sees potential value in these products under certain circumstances—perhaps medicinally or in survival scenarios—however he’s no longer aligned with these…

When it comes to wool and other animal-derived materials, Justin sees the potential for mutual, harmonious relationships between humans and animals—so long as care, respect, and well-being are upheld. He admits that the wool industry has its flaws, but believes that, in principle, using wool or honey doesn’t carry the same karmic burden as consuming flesh—especially when animals are protected and their natural cycles are honored.

He closes by returning to the moral pitfalls of shame, reinforcing that judgmental or forceful tactics in advocacy only alienate others and block meaningful transformation. He aims to reduce suffering across the Earth—including for animals—but to do so with compassion and patience, not coercion. Shame: is a dark force, and one he refuses to wield, even in the pursuit of a noble cause.

2:50:07 Rowan expresses appreciation for Justin’s share— He hasn’t reached a level of sensitivity where consuming animal products would cause a major impact on his health, but he recognizes the spiritual path Justin has described. Rowan discusses trade-offs of advancing to these higher states of living--giving examples such as fruitarianism or breatharianism… He describes spiritual elevation to getting "stuck in infinity" after a deep entheogenic experience, where one connects to timelessness and detachment so completely that it becomes isolating… In those higher states, one may no longer be of service to others or able to participate meaningfully in the human experience.

Rowan values productivity and purpose, he describes taking a path that protects both humans and animals without losing touch with grounded life. Regarding spiritual growth he feels, this should not become a pedestal that distances one from others or becomes a source of guilt projection. That, he feels, undermines the purpose of the journey—He closes with appreciation for Justin and acknowledges he’s still learning…

2:53:39 Justin expresses gratitude to Rowan, noting the complexity of the straight and narrow path and journey —Justin cautions that if the path is pursued for popularity or broad appeal, then it’s no longer the true path. True spiritual refinement often comes with a narrowing of connections, but it should not lead to isolation or judgment. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining connection, even while refining oneself. He explains that spiritual growth can either deepen a false sense of separation or enhance one's connection to all beings, depending on how it's approached.

The key is to remain relatable and compassionate, resisting any urge to judge others for being at a different point on their journey—especially when it comes to lifestyle choices like eating meat. Judgment only replicates the same harm that spiritual seekers themselves dislike receiving. Justin refers to Golden Rule and a Christ-centered perspectives—He stresses that everyone is divine, and all is God. If we truly recognize that divinity, we wouldn’t seek to harm, shame, or separate ourselves from others. This embodiment of Christic self is the true path—not one of condemnation but of love, unity, and inner-standing.

He states he’s found the version of the Nazarene Ten Commandments he mentioned earlier—teachings that had resonated with him—and reads them aloud, noting that while their origins may be uncertain, their wisdom carries significant meaning…

The 10 Commandments of the Nazarene book of Moses.

Hear me, oh Yisra’el, if you would have joy in your life, and abundant blessings, rather than pain and misery, keep these commandments.

1. Within the One YHWH is both God and Goddess; wherefore, worship both the Father God and Mother Goddess, that you be centered in the All.

2. Within the creation is a spark of the Creator; wherefore, know yourself.

3. Within every creature is a spark of the Creator; wherefore, respect all living things in the manner that you respect yourself.

4. YHWH desires that all creatures live in nonviolent cooperation; wherefore, walk softly on Mother Earth, seek nonviolence, and make no laws that conflict with the Way of YHWH.

5. YHWH does not sanction violent warfare; wherefore, any religion, scripture, or prophet that declares otherwise, either lies or is in ignorance, and should not be obeyed.

6. You shall not kill any creature for pleasure, nor for profit, nor for food.

7. You may eat the milk and eggs of animals that are well cared for, but know this: These foods are for this world only; for, in the lower heavens the Cherubim eat but fruit, and in the higher heavens they eat only heavenly essences.

8. You shall cultivate honesty within yourself and in every relationship.

9. You shall forgive yourself when you stumble, and likewise forgive others their shortcomings.

10. Love YHWH within and around you, and love every creature as yourself; for, lo: Love is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and none find YHWH except by Love.

Justin states he’ll post those in JC Family chat…he mentions that these commandments make a lot of sense and that they fit—A great way to end the show.

2:59:14 Justin covers the closing song lyrics and decodes…

Mumford and Sons ~ Dust Bowl Dance and After The Storm